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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
		<link>http://www.chikadora.com/2005/11/who-are-you-kidding-orange-and-lemons/comment-page-1/#comment-965</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait lang peeps. Care lang ang name ng band, hindi &quot;The Care&quot;. Yung Philippine release lang nila yung &quot;The Care&quot; must&#039;ve been a typo dito hehehe pero all their other albums/complilations refer to them as Care. FYI lang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait lang peeps. Care lang ang name ng band, hindi &#8220;The Care&#8221;. Yung Philippine release lang nila yung &#8220;The Care&#8221; must&#8217;ve been a typo dito hehehe pero all their other albums/complilations refer to them as Care. FYI lang.</p>
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		<title>By: vinnie</title>
		<link>http://www.chikadora.com/2005/11/who-are-you-kidding-orange-and-lemons/comment-page-1/#comment-523</link>
		<dc:creator>vinnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>funny. they say it doesn&#039;t sound anything like chandeliers. well, that&#039;s just funny. parang denial stage ba....?

hmm, pare/mare, walang mangyari 2 u if u can&#039;t/wont hear it anyways. it&#039;s pinoy ako, it&#039;s chandeliers. hehehe. it&#039;s orange and lemons, it&#039;s oranges and lemons, it&#039;s the care.

hahaha! fools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>funny. they say it doesn&#8217;t sound anything like chandeliers. well, that&#8217;s just funny. parang denial stage ba&#8230;.?</p>
<p>hmm, pare/mare, walang mangyari 2 u if u can&#8217;t/wont hear it anyways. it&#8217;s pinoy ako, it&#8217;s chandeliers. hehehe. it&#8217;s orange and lemons, it&#8217;s oranges and lemons, it&#8217;s the care.</p>
<p>hahaha! fools.</p>
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		<title>By: ANTHoNY</title>
		<link>http://www.chikadora.com/2005/11/who-are-you-kidding-orange-and-lemons/comment-page-1/#comment-297</link>
		<dc:creator>ANTHoNY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kasalanan din ng Warner o ng Sony iyan kasi pinabayaan nila o.............nagpabayad sila dito tapos di binigyan ng royalties ang Care!  Pero, ang balita eh demandado daw ang ONL?  Tutuo kaya?

CHIKA!  MABUHAY KA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kasalanan din ng Warner o ng Sony iyan kasi pinabayaan nila o&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.nagpabayad sila dito tapos di binigyan ng royalties ang Care!  Pero, ang balita eh demandado daw ang ONL?  Tutuo kaya?</p>
<p>CHIKA!  MABUHAY KA!</p>
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		<title>By: archie</title>
		<link>http://www.chikadora.com/2005/11/who-are-you-kidding-orange-and-lemons/comment-page-1/#comment-293</link>
		<dc:creator>archie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 05:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sabi nga ng friend ko na si Melinda:

    all in all ang ibig sabihin ay ganito: salamat po sa inyong mga comments, salamat sa care kasi nagamit namin ng walang paalam yung kanta nila at PINAGKAPERAHAN PA NAMIN.

    Dito sa pilipinas eh ok lang mang-rip off ng kanta kasi walang mangyayari. ONL rules! Bilhin nyo ang cd namin. ONL kami, kami ang isa sa pinakamaiinit ng banda ngayon kaya walang pwedeng pumalag! Mabuhay at ipagpatuloy ang pagnanakaw at panggagaya sa mga poreyn na kanta kasi walang hustisya dito sa bayan natin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sabi nga ng friend ko na si Melinda:</p>
<p>    all in all ang ibig sabihin ay ganito: salamat po sa inyong mga comments, salamat sa care kasi nagamit namin ng walang paalam yung kanta nila at PINAGKAPERAHAN PA NAMIN.</p>
<p>    Dito sa pilipinas eh ok lang mang-rip off ng kanta kasi walang mangyayari. ONL rules! Bilhin nyo ang cd namin. ONL kami, kami ang isa sa pinakamaiinit ng banda ngayon kaya walang pwedeng pumalag! Mabuhay at ipagpatuloy ang pagnanakaw at panggagaya sa mga poreyn na kanta kasi walang hustisya dito sa bayan natin.</p>
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		<title>By: archie</title>
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		<dc:creator>archie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 05:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From: &quot;lemon_juice2000&quot;
    Date: Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:46 am
    Subject: hello folks! =)

    I personally see the talks bet &quot;Pinoy ako&quot; and &quot;Chandeliers&quot; a
    healthy one. Talks between &quot;inspired&quot; and &quot;ripped-off&quot; worthy of
    discussion. But like other opinion-based issues (e.g. guilty ba si
    erap?, mas magaling ba c vilma kesa kay nora?).. this one would
    always be an open-ended discussion. Naturally because the bottomline
    is always goin to be based on your own opinion. Yun nga lang, some
    people offer their opinion, some immediately pass judgement.
    Whatever the case may be, it&#039;s all good in my book. Taken
    constructively and all in good light.

    Ang mahalaga lang talaga sa banda ngayon is to straighten the
    facts.. and then move on. Let&#039;s do this shall we?

    The Resemblance of Pinoy Ako and Chandeliers -

    A few days ago, i listened to Chandeliers and tried singing the
    lyrics of Pinoy Ako in it. I found it hard na pagsabayin. Both songs
    were submitted to authorities in the music scene and were subjected
    for analysis and have concluded -- Pinoy Ako and Chandeliers are two
    different songs. The same with the stand of the band and the labels
    concerned. There are elements na malapit sa isa&#039;t isa and the mood
    of the song are on the same line.. but the songs were still
    considered different from each other.

    On a personal note.. I enjoy both songs.

    Product of pressure? -

    Clem once used this term to describe the circumstances and the time
    frame with which ONL was required to finish the song for PBB. But
    the mood in the studio when we were recording the song was
    completely different. We were working well and enjoying the process
    much. I remember all of us agreeing to &quot;ok lads.. lets jam this one
    and lets hear wat wud come out naturally from us&quot;. The sound that
    you hear therefore is a mish-mash of the sounds of artists whom we
    have listened to for so long now -- not just Care, but would include
    The Beatles (harmonies), The Smiths (guitar fills and licks), APO
    and Rey Valera (the baritone and falceto (tama ba sfelling nito?
    wahehe) approach on the vocals).

    Was there a denial with your knowledge of Care and their songs? -

    None whatsoever. We have always been open with regards to our
    influences and the musical genre that we &quot;supposedly&quot; belong to --
    Indie pop-rock bordering on new wave--. A publication quoted Clem
    saying &quot;In fact, we were not even aware that such songs exist.&quot;.. It
    was Clem referring to songs like &quot;Happy Hour&quot; of the Housemartins
    (in comparison to A beginning of something wonderful) and a certain
    N&#039;Sync song (hehe) (in comparison to The Nerve).

    Arrogance? -

    ONL was gravely misquoted.. most especially Clem. I feel for him. He
    was never irked or irritated when asked about the issue (in casual
    conversations, text messages or formal interviews). He was dealing
    with inquiries well.. and so were the three of us in ONL. We have
    never bragged about anything.. simply proud of the things we have
    accomplished as a band and how we managed to stay the same.

    We were quoted saying..&quot;eh bakit kami magpapaalam? Pasalamat pa nga
    ang The Care dahil pinasikat namin ang kanta nila&quot;..

    ..actually what i said was &quot;We wer quite happy to share din with
    you, that a number of listers in the ONL egroup dug
    out &quot;chandeliers&quot; and the music of CARE after reading about this
    issue.. guess what?.. They are now loving the music of Paul Simpson
    and the rest of the crew. =) kakatuwa din un. Imagine high school
    and college students of today gettin aware and humming the music of
    old that we all learned to love? cool.&quot;.

    Layo noh? =)

    There are a couple more quotes or misquotes that was greatly
    misinterpreted but please do understand that I don&#039;t wanna dwell in
    this anymore. Thanks.

    Does ONL ever get tired of explaining this issue? -

    We don&#039;t mind explaining our side. But we&#039;d prefer not to dwell in
    it. It&#039;s been a month or two since we&#039;ve discussed this with friends
    and some people in the scene. ONL has moved on. The song has served
    its purpose for the PBB show. Right now we are more preoccupied with
    new projects. Exciting time for us.

    It is a fact ladies and gentlemen that there are people who have set
    their minds and conclusion regarding the issue. It was never an
    intent on our part to justify ourselves and convince them to change
    their views otherwise. We just share our side. We respect each and
    everyone&#039;s take on the matter.

    Is there anything to learn from all this?

    Of course. Just the same as with anything that happens to anyone. We
    are a young band. Great room for improvement. We are simple
    musicians. We write songs and play them for people to hear. Either
    you like us or hate us or be completely indifferent. What matters to
    us greatly is we are able to get the music across.

    What is there to expect from ONL?

    Please do watch ASAP Mania this Sunday. We&#039;ll be launching a
    repackaged Strike Whilst The Iron Is Hot album. This one will
    include a bonus cd/vcd containing -- the music videos of Hanggang
    Kailan and Heaven Knows, Naked versions of Hanggang Kailan and
    Heaven Knows, a new song called Abot Kamay, 2 Versions of Blue Moon
    and Pinoy Ako (label&#039;s decision to include this one ser noel wahehe
    =)..)

    Strike album is still the collection of our 12(13) tracks.. may
    bonus CD lang &#039;tong repackage. It so happened that ONL was blessed
    with a number of projects in the past few months that we all decided
    to put it all in one bonus CD. I think it&#039;s neat.

    Stay tuned for the airplay of ABOT KAMAY this weekend or early next
    week in radio stations and the airing of a commercial/music video
    that comes along with the song to be aired starting Nov.6..

    See you all around. Thanks for reading. =)

    mcoy
   
****ITO ANG POSTE NG ONL SA EGROUP, ang yabang!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From: &#8220;lemon_juice2000&#8243;<br />
    Date: Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:46 am<br />
    Subject: hello folks! =)</p>
<p>    I personally see the talks bet &#8220;Pinoy ako&#8221; and &#8220;Chandeliers&#8221; a<br />
    healthy one. Talks between &#8220;inspired&#8221; and &#8220;ripped-off&#8221; worthy of<br />
    discussion. But like other opinion-based issues (e.g. guilty ba si<br />
    erap?, mas magaling ba c vilma kesa kay nora?).. this one would<br />
    always be an open-ended discussion. Naturally because the bottomline<br />
    is always goin to be based on your own opinion. Yun nga lang, some<br />
    people offer their opinion, some immediately pass judgement.<br />
    Whatever the case may be, it&#8217;s all good in my book. Taken<br />
    constructively and all in good light.</p>
<p>    Ang mahalaga lang talaga sa banda ngayon is to straighten the<br />
    facts.. and then move on. Let&#8217;s do this shall we?</p>
<p>    The Resemblance of Pinoy Ako and Chandeliers -</p>
<p>    A few days ago, i listened to Chandeliers and tried singing the<br />
    lyrics of Pinoy Ako in it. I found it hard na pagsabayin. Both songs<br />
    were submitted to authorities in the music scene and were subjected<br />
    for analysis and have concluded &#8212; Pinoy Ako and Chandeliers are two<br />
    different songs. The same with the stand of the band and the labels<br />
    concerned. There are elements na malapit sa isa&#8217;t isa and the mood<br />
    of the song are on the same line.. but the songs were still<br />
    considered different from each other.</p>
<p>    On a personal note.. I enjoy both songs.</p>
<p>    Product of pressure? -</p>
<p>    Clem once used this term to describe the circumstances and the time<br />
    frame with which ONL was required to finish the song for PBB. But<br />
    the mood in the studio when we were recording the song was<br />
    completely different. We were working well and enjoying the process<br />
    much. I remember all of us agreeing to &#8220;ok lads.. lets jam this one<br />
    and lets hear wat wud come out naturally from us&#8221;. The sound that<br />
    you hear therefore is a mish-mash of the sounds of artists whom we<br />
    have listened to for so long now &#8212; not just Care, but would include<br />
    The Beatles (harmonies), The Smiths (guitar fills and licks), APO<br />
    and Rey Valera (the baritone and falceto (tama ba sfelling nito?<br />
    wahehe) approach on the vocals).</p>
<p>    Was there a denial with your knowledge of Care and their songs? -</p>
<p>    None whatsoever. We have always been open with regards to our<br />
    influences and the musical genre that we &#8220;supposedly&#8221; belong to &#8211;<br />
    Indie pop-rock bordering on new wave&#8211;. A publication quoted Clem<br />
    saying &#8220;In fact, we were not even aware that such songs exist.&#8221;.. It<br />
    was Clem referring to songs like &#8220;Happy Hour&#8221; of the Housemartins<br />
    (in comparison to A beginning of something wonderful) and a certain<br />
    N&#8217;Sync song (hehe) (in comparison to The Nerve).</p>
<p>    Arrogance? -</p>
<p>    ONL was gravely misquoted.. most especially Clem. I feel for him. He<br />
    was never irked or irritated when asked about the issue (in casual<br />
    conversations, text messages or formal interviews). He was dealing<br />
    with inquiries well.. and so were the three of us in ONL. We have<br />
    never bragged about anything.. simply proud of the things we have<br />
    accomplished as a band and how we managed to stay the same.</p>
<p>    We were quoted saying..&#8221;eh bakit kami magpapaalam? Pasalamat pa nga<br />
    ang The Care dahil pinasikat namin ang kanta nila&#8221;..</p>
<p>    ..actually what i said was &#8220;We wer quite happy to share din with<br />
    you, that a number of listers in the ONL egroup dug<br />
    out &#8220;chandeliers&#8221; and the music of CARE after reading about this<br />
    issue.. guess what?.. They are now loving the music of Paul Simpson<br />
    and the rest of the crew. =) kakatuwa din un. Imagine high school<br />
    and college students of today gettin aware and humming the music of<br />
    old that we all learned to love? cool.&#8221;.</p>
<p>    Layo noh? =)</p>
<p>    There are a couple more quotes or misquotes that was greatly<br />
    misinterpreted but please do understand that I don&#8217;t wanna dwell in<br />
    this anymore. Thanks.</p>
<p>    Does ONL ever get tired of explaining this issue? -</p>
<p>    We don&#8217;t mind explaining our side. But we&#8217;d prefer not to dwell in<br />
    it. It&#8217;s been a month or two since we&#8217;ve discussed this with friends<br />
    and some people in the scene. ONL has moved on. The song has served<br />
    its purpose for the PBB show. Right now we are more preoccupied with<br />
    new projects. Exciting time for us.</p>
<p>    It is a fact ladies and gentlemen that there are people who have set<br />
    their minds and conclusion regarding the issue. It was never an<br />
    intent on our part to justify ourselves and convince them to change<br />
    their views otherwise. We just share our side. We respect each and<br />
    everyone&#8217;s take on the matter.</p>
<p>    Is there anything to learn from all this?</p>
<p>    Of course. Just the same as with anything that happens to anyone. We<br />
    are a young band. Great room for improvement. We are simple<br />
    musicians. We write songs and play them for people to hear. Either<br />
    you like us or hate us or be completely indifferent. What matters to<br />
    us greatly is we are able to get the music across.</p>
<p>    What is there to expect from ONL?</p>
<p>    Please do watch ASAP Mania this Sunday. We&#8217;ll be launching a<br />
    repackaged Strike Whilst The Iron Is Hot album. This one will<br />
    include a bonus cd/vcd containing &#8212; the music videos of Hanggang<br />
    Kailan and Heaven Knows, Naked versions of Hanggang Kailan and<br />
    Heaven Knows, a new song called Abot Kamay, 2 Versions of Blue Moon<br />
    and Pinoy Ako (label&#8217;s decision to include this one ser noel wahehe<br />
    =)..)</p>
<p>    Strike album is still the collection of our 12(13) tracks.. may<br />
    bonus CD lang &#8216;tong repackage. It so happened that ONL was blessed<br />
    with a number of projects in the past few months that we all decided<br />
    to put it all in one bonus CD. I think it&#8217;s neat.</p>
<p>    Stay tuned for the airplay of ABOT KAMAY this weekend or early next<br />
    week in radio stations and the airing of a commercial/music video<br />
    that comes along with the song to be aired starting Nov.6..</p>
<p>    See you all around. Thanks for reading. =)</p>
<p>    mcoy</p>
<p>****ITO ANG POSTE NG ONL SA EGROUP, ang yabang!</p>
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		<title>By: archie</title>
		<link>http://www.chikadora.com/2005/11/who-are-you-kidding-orange-and-lemons/comment-page-1/#comment-289</link>
		<dc:creator>archie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oi!  basahin ninyo itong blogspot na pag-aari mismo ng moderator nila sa orangeandlemons@yahoogroups.com pati yung explanation ng ONL na misquoted daw sila at PINAGDIDIINAN PA in so many words na TALAGANG MAGPASALAMAT SI BROUDIE AT SIMPSON ngayon eh hinahalungkat na sila ng mga high school at mga bata dahil sa PBB theme song...http://manontheside.blogspot.com...masdan niyo rin kung papano sumagot yung moderator at ako ay SPEEEEEECHLESSSSSSSSSSS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oi!  basahin ninyo itong blogspot na pag-aari mismo ng moderator nila sa <a href="mailto:orangeandlemons@yahoogroups.com">orangeandlemons@yahoogroups.com</a> pati yung explanation ng ONL na misquoted daw sila at PINAGDIDIINAN PA in so many words na TALAGANG MAGPASALAMAT SI BROUDIE AT SIMPSON ngayon eh hinahalungkat na sila ng mga high school at mga bata dahil sa PBB theme song&#8230;<a href="http://manontheside.blogspot.com...masdan" rel="nofollow">http://manontheside.blogspot.com&#8230;masdan</a> niyo rin kung papano sumagot yung moderator at ako ay SPEEEEEECHLESSSSSSSSSSS!</p>
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		<title>By: bodgie</title>
		<link>http://www.chikadora.com/2005/11/who-are-you-kidding-orange-and-lemons/comment-page-1/#comment-288</link>
		<dc:creator>bodgie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there should be a signature ban against ONL and the likes of this people giving the Philippine Music Industry a bad legacy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there should be a signature ban against ONL and the likes of this people giving the Philippine Music Industry a bad legacy!</p>
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		<title>By: Dindo</title>
		<link>http://www.chikadora.com/2005/11/who-are-you-kidding-orange-and-lemons/comment-page-1/#comment-281</link>
		<dc:creator>Dindo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what is Sony BMG, it&#039;s distributor and Warner Music, the copyright owners doing about the whole thing?  Riding through the issue?  Someone please start writing these labels or what is PARI doing about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is Sony BMG, it&#8217;s distributor and Warner Music, the copyright owners doing about the whole thing?  Riding through the issue?  Someone please start writing these labels or what is PARI doing about it?</p>
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		<title>By: Angelina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angelina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 08:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ONL has not only lied to its teeth but as far as I&#039;m concerned, they are worst than rapists!  They have not only raped Care out of their royalties but there they are bragging to the whole world that they are bonafide and certified thieves.  Translations sa mga hindi makaintindi, ni rape na, ninakawan pa!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ONL has not only lied to its teeth but as far as I&#8217;m concerned, they are worst than rapists!  They have not only raped Care out of their royalties but there they are bragging to the whole world that they are bonafide and certified thieves.  Translations sa mga hindi makaintindi, ni rape na, ninakawan pa!</p>
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		<title>By: Archie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Archie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both of you I agree!  The song should be stopped!  Must be stopped!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both of you I agree!  The song should be stopped!  Must be stopped!</p>
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